Harry Potter Books (Spoiler Alert--Enter at your own risk!)

[Luvmy4brats]

Won't go in the other thread yet. Just got off work and have decided I can't wait until I can see it with family. At the theater now.

Gertie's fault. She gave a glowing review of Michael Gambon. This I must see.

[Betsy the Quilter]

For those of you who won't "pirate" her books (even though it is sooo easy to do so), consider this:
You paid for them. You have the DTB versions, and Fair Use doctrine *does* allow you to create "backup copies" of any copyrighted work you own.

Technically, it might only be legal if you made the copies yourself (ie cut up your books and scanned them, or typed them).

In my case, I feel I should have the right to only have to purchase ONE copy of something (be it book, movie or CD) and be able to consume said media in any format I choose. Alas, current copyright law is terrible. Therefore I have absolutely no problem "pirating" things I already own in other formats.

I AM NOT A LAWYER. THIS IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE.

I'm not a lawyer either, I'm a quilter.   But I do know that copyright law is extremely complicated, having read bunches as it pertains to what I do, and I'm not convinced that this is exactly right, at least as it pertains to books.  I'd love to see a citation.   

At any rate, as a visual artist whose works and writings are copyrighted, I do appreciate the respect for copyright I see on these boards.   

Betsy

 

[Gertie Kindle 'a/k/a Margaret Lake']

Back . . . wonderful. Going again on Saturday. Already ticketed.

Edward C. Patteson

Yes.  wonderful.  going again next week. 

[danfan]

If no one else has done it, I'll start a new thread for the movie when I get back ... if I can see through my tears.  I wish someone else was playing Dumbledore.  I can't stand Michael Gambon.  He brings absolutely nothing to the character.  Richard Harris was marginally better.  Sean Connery would have been perfect.  But then he's perfect anyway. 

I don't like Gambon much, either. I did like Richard Harris though & I'd hoped for Ian McKellan instead of Gambon, but I wondered if viewers would just think of Gandalf when they saw him.

Looking forward to seeing the film on Sunday. My kids are both at scout camps this week so I promised them I would wait. Hoping this is better than the last movie. I was so disappointed with that & have deliberately not re-read the book so I don't spend the whole film comparing like I did last time.

[akpak]

I think Gambon has the right look for Dumbledore, but he was never able to nail the "twinkle" that should be in Albus' eyes most of the time.

He was just too... Grave. Harris was far better but alas.

[4Katie]

I think Gambon has the right look for Dumbledore, but he was never able to nail the "twinkle" that should be in Albus' eyes most of the time.

Exactly! And he doesn't have the warmth that made be BELIEVE Dumbledore.

[Gertie Kindle 'a/k/a Margaret Lake']

Exactly! And he doesn't have the warmth that made be BELIEVE Dumbledore.

I agree, but have you seen the movie yet?  Gambon finally got it.  He really, really got it.  He was magnificent in The Cave when Harry is force feeding him the potion. (chillbumps)  I'm going to see it again next week. 

[r0b0d0c]

Wow! this is the longest thread I've read in "The Book Corner" about a series of books that has never been available on the Kindle!

 

Sure wish Ms. Rowling would reconsider! Mrs. r0b0d0c and I are reading our DTB copies to catch up before seeing the newest movie. This would be so much easier on our Kindles...

[4Katie]

Wow! this is the longest thread I've read in "The Book Corner" about a series of books that has never been available on the Kindle!

lol - Hadn't thought of that!

Sure wish Ms. Rowling would reconsider! Mrs. r0b0d0c and I are reading our DTB copies to catch up before seeing the newest movie. This would be so much easier on our Kindles...

I'm a relative newbie here... what does DTB mean?

[Edward C. Patterson]

DTB=Dead Tree Book or Death of a Tree Book, a term that many traditional published authors hate as much as Indie authors hate the tern "self-published." It's funny, becuse DTB doesn;t really mean Traditionally Published, because most of the Indie authors have their books in both eBook and paperback. Heck, one excellent author on Kindleboards is about to have an audio book. However, because of the sensitivity of the word "Dead" a happy acronym has evolved, DTB.

Edward C. Patterson
(I have 13 published DTBs)

[Ann in Arlington]

DTB=Dead Tree Book or Death of a Tree Book, a term that many traditional published authors hate as much as Indie authors hate the tern "self-published." It's funny, becuse DTB doesn;t really mean Traditionally Published, because most of the Indie authors have their books in both eBook and paperback. Heck, one excellent author on Lindleboards is about to have an audio book. However, because of the sensitivity of the word "Dead" a happy acronym has evolved, DTB.

Edward C. Patterson
(I have 13 published DTBs)

Yeah. . . .cause "DTB" could easily mean "Digital-Text Book".

[danfan]

I agree, but have you seen the movie yet?  Gambon finally got it.  He really, really got it.  He was magnificent in The Cave when Harry is force feeding him the potion. (chillbumps)  I'm going to see it again next week. 

Oh I still haven't seen it!  We bought tickets to see it yesterday but when we got to the theater, it was CLOSED due to a power outage!   

[RavenclawPrefect]

I am reading Deathly Hallows again for the first time in about a year now.  I am towards the end and let me tell you, the impact is still there even though I know how it all ends. 

[danfan]

I am reading Deathly Hallows again for the first time in about a year now.  I am towards the end and let me tell you, the impact is still there even though I know how it all ends. 

That's the only book I disliked. Verrry disappointed. I re-read it and started writing notes to myself, on all the things I had a problem with, but I couldn't get past halfway on the second reading. Maybe I'll try again one day.

[4Katie]

I agree, but have you seen the movie yet?  Gambon finally got it.  He really, really got it.  He was magnificent in The Cave when Harry is force feeding him the potion. (chillbumps)  I'm going to see it again next week. 

I'm glad to hear that. There have been moments when he seemed to have that sparkle, but overall I've been disappointed.

Tomorrow night I'll see how he does in DH.

[Gertie Kindle 'a/k/a Margaret Lake']

I'm glad to hear that. There have been moments when he seemed to have that sparkle, but overall I've been disappointed.

Tomorrow night I'll see how he does in DH.

Gambon actually displayed depth and emotion.  He didn't just speak the lines like he usually does.  Hope you enjoy. 

[ProfCrash]

That's the only book I disliked. Verrry disappointed. I re-read it and started writing notes to myself, on all the things I had a problem with, but I couldn't get past halfway on the second reading. Maybe I'll try again one day.

The ending I liked. It was the first 3/4 of the book that seemed long and lacking to me.

[koolmnbv]

I posted in the other HP thread but i will say it here also. I really need to read this entire series. I have seen all the movies and I have read the 1st book A LONG time ago. But with the movies lately although I enjoy the newer ones I have left feeling more confused and with even more questions. I think if i read all the books in order that would help alot and then if I re-watch the movies I will understand alot more and can make proper judgements.

I also want to do that same thing with the LoTR series.

[4Katie]

I posted in the other HP thread but i will say it here also. I really need to read this entire series. I have seen all the movies and I have read the 1st book A LONG time ago. But with the movies lately although I enjoy the newer ones I have left feeling more confused and with even more questions. I think if i read all the books in order that would help alot and then if I re-watch the movies I will understand alot more and can make proper judgements.

That's what we're going to do before the 7th movie comes out - read the first book, watch the movie; read the second book, watch the movie...

[ProfCrash]

I would highly encourage you to read the books. They are wonderful.

The movies do not do them justice. My nine year old nephew is able to identify were the movies are changing things that happen in the book and all the areas that are left out. Which means that the differences are pretty obvious.

I know that the movies are enjoyed by many of the fans of the books. I am one of those people who struggles with watching anything taken from a written source that I know. The only comic book movie that I watch in the theater are the recent Batman movies. I watch those because the character of Batman is so close to the character written by Frank Miller in the Dark Knight returns in terms of attitude and behavior that the movies are enjoyable. I watched the first X-Men movie and went nuts with all the changes that were made. Bobby Drake was an original member of the X-Men not a student being taught by Scott and Jean. The members of the X-Men were never actually teachers. It is a long, long list.

I was petrified when Lord of the Rings came out that they were going to screw it up and was amazed how much of the feel and spirit of the books was found in the movie. I thought they did an amazing job and made some good decisions about what to drop and what to keep.

The first HP movie was good. I enjoyed it. The second was ok, the third was awful. They moved from keeping the awe and more complex relations and interactions in the books with some action to all action all the time. It might make for a good flick but you loose so much of who the characters are and how the characters are developing as people that it hurts the storyline.

[4Katie]

I think the biggest problems with the HP movies are that the books are so long the movies can't possibly include everything. What they do, they do very well, but there's so much missing.

I was horrified at the World Quidditch Cup Tournament at the beginning of the Goblet of Fire movie. If you hadn't read the book, you were seriously cheated. In the book it was a really big deal and was described in such detail I felt like I was there. But it only lasted what seemed like a few seconds in the movie. We were shocked!

[Gertie Kindle 'a/k/a Margaret Lake']

I would highly encourage you to read the books. They are wonderful.

Definitely.  There is so much substance to these books.  I was talking to someone today who had never read them or seen the movies.  I explained to her all of the classical and mythological allusions there are in the books.  All the clues and all the red herrings.  But, "somtimes a mouth organ is just a mouth organ."   

The movies do not do them justice. My nine year old nephew is able to identify were the movies are changing things that happen in the book and all the areas that are left out. Which means that the differences are pretty obvious.

I watched the first movie with my HP book club.  I think we watched about 30-40 minutes and I offered them a house point for every difference they found between the book and the movie.  In that short time, they found 70+ differences.

I was petrified when Lord of the Rings came out that they were going to screw it up and was amazed how much of the feel and spirit of the books was found in the movie. I thought they did an amazing job and made some good decisions about what to drop and what to keep.

PJ & Co. did an amazing adaptation of the books.  It was so obvious that he loved the material, which is why, I think, avid fans of the books enjoyed the movies. 

The first HP movie was good. I enjoyed it. The second was ok, the third was awful. They moved from keeping the awe and more complex relations and interactions in the books with some action to all action all the time. It might make for a good flick but you loose so much of who the characters are and how the characters are developing as people that it hurts the storyline.

I liked the first two because they brought the books to life.  I can't stand the third.  I watch it when I'm on an HP marathon, but I'll usually do something else while it's on. 

If I wanted to pick apart this last movie, I would find many, many flaws.  But I think the totality of the movie was true to the essence of the book.  I enjoyed it for what it was; part of the HP movie franchise. 

[marianneg]

I was horrified at the World Quidditch Cup Tournament at the beginning of the Goblet of Fire movie. If you hadn't read the book, you were seriously cheated. In the book it was a really big deal and was described in such detail I felt like I was there. But it only lasted what seemed like a few seconds in the movie. We were shocked!

Meh, I agreed with that call.  Yeah, it was incredible in the book, but it really didn't move the story forward at all, except to introduce Cederic and the Death-Eater incident after.  And the house-elf saving the empty seat, of course, but that wasn't really essential, either, just a nice gotcha moment.

[Gertie Kindle 'a/k/a Margaret Lake']

Meh, I agreed with that call.  Yeah, it was incredible in the book, but it really didn't move the story forward at all, except to introduce Cederic and the Death-Eater incident after.  And the house-elf saving the empty seat, of course, but that wasn't really essential, either, just a nice gotcha moment.

I agreed, too.  They put in all they needed of the QWC.  I would like to have the scene where the Weasleys pick up Harry at the Dursleys before the match.  That was major fun.  But I can see why they left that out, too.  I'll just have to read it again (such a hardship  ). 

I would like to have seen Luna commentating on Quidditch instead of the pointless waitress scene (have I said that 500 times, yet?).

[4Katie]

My problem is that I don't want them to leave anything out...