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This thread was originally titled, "What are you willing to do to reach (or stay in) the top 1,000 club?" but obviously it is a metaphor for the bigger question of, "What are you willing to do (or give up) to be a successful writer?" On Monday I dropped the price of the Kindle Edition of my novel, Cyberdrome just to see if I could get back into the top 1,000 club (I was there for a few weeks in December and it was kind of cool). Monday evening it made it all the way to #1,207 at 6pm PST (I have a charting program to watch this) and I even made it to number 5 in my genre, "high tech science fiction," but then it apparently hit a wall and didn't sell another book for 14 hours (climbed back in the mid 3,000's). Since then, it just bounces up and down at around the 3,000 range (equaling 8-9 sales per day), which is only slightly better than it was doing at the old price of $2.99. Now I know it's only been 3 days, but I had hoped I would see more of an improvement at the lower price. With a 33% drop in royalties, I will need to see an increase in sales by at least 33% to stay at this price during March (my planned sales period). I know it seems like I'm being greedy to be trying for a higher ranking, especially when I was making more money at $2.99 and a 3000-ranking, than many top 1000 authors make with their $0.99 books (I have fewer sales but larger royalties). I try not to be influenced by ranks and charts, but apparently I am human after all. Is it wrong to want exposure more than money? Should I just mellow out and be thankful for what I have? Do I need to switch to decaffeinated? Sorry for the long post--just had to vent that... My fellow Indie authors here are the only ones who might understand what I am going through. So, what's your tale of obsession? Maybe if we all share here, we can avoid a trip to the shrink. 
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David "Half-Orc" Dalglish
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« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2010, 02:10:19 PM » |
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Well, my question would be, do you plan on having more books than just the one? If no, then take the one that earns you the most money. I'm selling my first book for 99 cents because I want every single scrap of attention that I can get, but I also have 4 more books in various stages of editing, and plan on rolling them out over the year or two. Higher sales of book 1 should mean higher sales of book 2, 3, 4, and 5 (assuming, of course, book 1 isn't terrible). I'll experiment with different prices on the later books.
Frankly, if you can stay in the 3,000 at a 2.99 price, you should feel rather proud. At a third of the price, I've only cracked beyond the 3000's only once. Your title, what are you willing to do to reach the 1000 club, I should probably ask you, what is it that you did to get to the 1000 club, so I may learn.
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« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2010, 02:45:13 PM » |
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Interesting issues Joseph. IMO there is quite a lot of satisfaction in being read (and in obtaining feedback from readers), but I don't think there is appreciably greater satisfaction in being read by tens of thousands instead of tens of hundreds. I'm not personally that needy at any rate, and while I enjoy the competition aspect of Amazon's ranking system as much as the next person (I suspect), I try to keep my long term interests in perspective.
The only reason to want more readers at the expense of profit per book in the short run that makes sense to me is to make more money in the long run, but maximizing your readership via lower prices won't be helpful in the long run unless your book really stands out. With all the competition out there from traditionally published authors and now more and more indies it is harder than ever to obtain repeat customers, to establish brand loyalty, if you will. So the book has got to be memorable, a standout. Otherwise, by lowering price one may be doing no good at all or only be escalating the speed with which the number of purchasers who won't ever buy your books again mounts.
So are you getting a lot of reviews (an indicator of enthusiasm)? And are they very positive, above four stars on average, let's say (an indicator of quality)? Are there any other more or less objective indicators suggesting your book is truly of high quality (e.g., previous novels written and well-received, previous literary representation, positive feedback from a professional author you respect, a writing contest win or shortlist placement)?
I'm saying this to you, not having ever read your work or reviewed your book's page, but also to other indie authors because I hear this argument again and again: "I'm lowering my price to increase my readership," and I think: "Are you really sure you're ready to do that?" Of course it doesn't really matter at all if you're an indie author hobbyist. In that case, have fun, do whatever.
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« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2010, 09:07:40 PM » |
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Here's what I wrote on the "other thread." My answer was partly in jest and partly not. lol My Second Chances got down to a little over 5000 a few days ago which I thought was pretty good. I would love to hit the "1000 Club" with it though. What would I do to reach this goal? I don't really know. Stand on my head and say pretty please buy my book? Promise ice cream with hot chocolate on it if you buy my book? Have book in hand and beg on the virtual corner for people to buy my book? I could drop my price from $2.99 to nothing but I can't seem to bring myself to do that although I've been tempted. But I worked hard on this book and can't bring myself to just give it away. I value my work, my skills, and the time I put into creating this book. I think $2.99 is a fair price for my hard work. Heck, it ain't like I'm gonna be able to make a living on the royalties from Amazon at $2.99 per book but a little is better than nothing in my opinion. My sales have been pretty good. The word seems to be getting around about my latest book. I am thankful for each person who bought it. OK, now I am going to stand on the virtual street corner with Second Chances in hand and ask for people to splurge $2.99 on a good contemporary romance with a cowboy/western theme. It has been professionally edited and formatted as well as humanly possible. It even has a great cover design which you probably won't get with the download because evidently Amazon only puts the covers up on their site and not downloadable with the book. Help me reach the "1000 Club" with my Second Chances. I've been writing since 1997 and this is my 7th published book. I've always gone indie. I like it that way. As I have posted on my website: Like Barbara Mandrell who was country before country was cool, Kristie Leigh Maguire was independently published before independent publishing was cool! She was a pioneer when it came to traveling along the alternative road to publication. She didn't want the 'traditional publishing house gods' telling her what to write or how to write it so it would fit into their formula. Being a child of the 60s, she insisted on doing things her own way. Kristie Leigh Maguire   Visit my website at http://kristieleighmaguire.com
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« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2010, 10:25:54 PM » |
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Ignore the Amazon ranking, for the most part. You can sell 20 copies of a book on one day and be ranked #1300, sell 200 copies the next and be ranked #3400. Been there, done that, learned to not get excited about rankings years ago.
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« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2010, 11:52:40 PM » |
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Interesting question. I just published my own book today, making Devil's Lair available on Kindle for $0.99. My feeling is that, for me, building a readership is more important than money. And the end of the first day, Devil's Lair was #6748, which is fine with me. Right now, I'm just happy people are buying it.
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« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2010, 12:39:03 AM » |
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Ignore the Amazon ranking, for the most part. You can sell 20 copies of a book on one day and be ranked #1300, sell 200 copies the next and be ranked #3400. Been there, done that, learned to not get excited about rankings years ago.
My rankings are so bad, I still allow myself to get excited when I get a book sale and jump to 17,000! I know I need to pimp myself all over these boards and over at Amazon to get sales, but I simply don't have the energy. Just makes the sales I do get that little bit more special. 
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« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2010, 12:42:54 AM » |
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I was the same way i went all the way to 130,000 then dropped to 17,000. I havent been able to get below 16,000 and now I am again circuling 100,000. I am out of ideas on what to do and its starting to get frustrating.
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« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2010, 04:31:20 AM » |
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Thumper's right. Remember that your ranking has a lot to do with your sales, but it has every bit as much to do with everyone else's sales. It's a ranking, after all.
I suppose you'd call me an 'indie hobbyist', though I take every aspect of the craft VERY seriously (except for the making money part). If I worried too much about that, I wouldn't be having nearly as much fun. Soon I intend to set the price of books 2 and 3 in the trilogy to 2.99, but EH will remain inexpensive for a while longer. It's interesting that FH (which is 2.99 already) is selling as well as RS (which is still 99 cents because I've been too lazy to go in and change it). If people like the first one, they'll buy the others at 2.99. Feedback has been positive.
My rankings have been fairly consistent for many months now--they hover between the mid-1,000s and the mid-3,000s with occasional dips into the 4-5. March first was a good sales day (31 copies) and yet the rankings didn't change much. They are just as good this morning with only 15 sold yesterday. See what I mean?
It would be neat to have a three-figure ranking (however briefly) but unless I do a blitz of some kind that's unlikely. Meanwhile, I'll just keep on doing what I do...and working on the next one!
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« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2010, 04:47:26 AM » |
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I have a friend that has a book on Amazon (DTB, not kindle). The description is "Rather than devote space to the type of theological and exegetical comments found in most commentaries, this series focuses on the Hebrew text and its related issues, syntactic and otherwise. The volumes serve as prequels to commentary proper, providing guides to understanding the linguistic characteristics of the texts from which the messages of the texts may then be derived. In addition to this, Ruth, the newest volume in the series, handbooks on Amos, Genesis 1-11, and Jonah are also now available." http://www.amazon.com/Ruth-Handbook-Hebrew-Baylor-Bible/dp/1932792910/He is excited when he break the 150,000 mark. 
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« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2010, 06:42:59 AM » |
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I've hit the Top 100 Club (with The List and Afraid) and the Top 1 Club (with SERIAL which is free and was #1 for several weeks--it's currently at #58.)
I usually have between three and six books in the Top #1000 Club.
Here are my guesses as to why I keep selling well.
1. I already have some name recognition from my print books. I have half a million books in print worldwide, and some of those people go looking for me on Amazon and find my self-pubbed Kindle titles.
2. I have a blog called A Newbie's Guide to Publishing where I often talk about ebooks. That blog gets over a thousand hits per day, and some of those readers wind up becoming ebook buyers.
3. I've found the sweet spot for pricing to be $1.99, though that will go up to $2.99 when the royalty rate changes. Perhaps I could make a bit more money selling at $2.99 now, but that would mean some fewer sales, which would negate:
4. Being on the Kindle genre bestseller lists. The bestseller lists are chances for browsers to find you when they're looking for well-known books by well-known authors. In my case, they'll buy a Stephen King, James Patterson, or JD Robb, see me above that author for only $1.99, and it's a one-click impulse purchase. It's worth a lower price to stay high up on those lists. Last week I had ten titles in the Police Procedural Top 100. I believe these lists become self-fulfilling prophecies. The more you sell, the more you sell.
5. Word of mouth. Or in this case, word of Google. If you Google me, you get a lot of hits. Lots of folks link to me, review me, read and recommend me. I did a lot of self-promotion for my print career, and that foundation still stands.
6. Good covers and product descriptions. I just improved some of my covers, and saw an immediate uptick in sales. I'm also constantly adding to/tweaking my book descriptions. I've found that more information leads to stronger sales (as opposed to teasers with less info.) I also make sure my first line of description is "Only $1.99 for a limited time." By announcing the low pricing is limited, I encourage impulse buyers.
7. New content. Every few months I try to add another ebook to my Kindle store. The more books you have on Kindle, the greater your chances of being discovered. And if someone discovers you, and likes you, they'll buy more of your ebooks.
My 2 cents. It's probably worth noting I earned $3450 last month on Kindle books, and I've already made over $420 this month, and it's only March 4 at 8:30am.
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« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2010, 07:06:29 AM » |
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Thanks for the list of advice, Jack. I was wondering if you could elaborate on one of your points, though. You said $1.99 is the sweet spot, but do you mean for total sales, or total income? Have you experimented with a $0.99 price? If you did, was it worth it? I've posted mine that low in an attempt for impulse purchases, but at the same time, I've wondered if a slightly higher price would come across as a bit more...professional? When it comes to impulse buys, is there even a difference between $0.99 and $1.99?
You have a great blog, by the way. I read plenty of posts there before I ever uploaded my book to Kindle, and you most certainly gain readers from there.
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« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2010, 07:49:57 AM » |
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Interesting issues Joseph. IMO there is quite a lot of satisfaction in being read (and in obtaining feedback from readers), but I don't think there is appreciably greater satisfaction in being read by tens of thousands instead of tens of hundreds. I'm not personally that needy at any rate, and while I enjoy the competition aspect of Amazon's ranking system as much as the next person (I suspect), I try to keep my long term interests in perspective.
The only reason to want more readers at the expense of profit per book in the short run that makes sense to me is to make more money in the long run, but maximizing your readership via lower prices won't be helpful in the long run unless your book really stands out. With all the competition out there from traditionally published authors and now more and more indies it is harder than ever to obtain repeat customers, to establish brand loyalty, if you will. So the book has got to be memorable, a standout. Otherwise, by lowering price one may be doing no good at all or only be escalating the speed with which the number of purchasers who won't ever buy your books again mounts.
So are you getting a lot of reviews (an indicator of enthusiasm)? And are they very positive, above four stars on average, let's say (an indicator of quality)? Are there any other more or less objective indicators suggesting your book is truly of high quality (e.g., previous novels written and well-received, previous literary representation, positive feedback from a professional author you respect, a writing contest win or shortlist placement)?
I'm saying this to you, not having ever read your work or reviewed your book's page, but also to other indie authors because I hear this argument again and again: "I'm lowering my price to increase my readership," and I think: "Are you really sure you're ready to do that?" Of course it doesn't really matter at all if you're an indie author hobbyist. In that case, have fun, do whatever.
Eric, To answer the questions in your 3rd paragraph above, Cyberdrome has had 15 reviews to date, 11 of them 5-star, 2 4-star, 1 really nice 3-star, and 1 2-star from a guy who admitted that he didn't actually read the book (just based his review on a sample chapter) and actually, his review wasn't that bad either. Cyberdrome also won the 2008 PODBRAM award for best science fiction of the year ( http://podbram.blogspot.com/2009/01/2008-podbram-awards.html) based on a really nice review by award-winning author, Dianne K. Salerni ( http://podbram.blogspot.com/2008/07/cyberdrome.html). Even with these accolades, I wanted the book to be better, so I spent the last year tweeking and polishing the first act of the book and then worked it through a number of writing groups like Authonomy.com, AuthorsDen.com, critters.org, and OnlineWritingWorkshop.com (where it won an Editors Choice award). So yes, I feel my book is ready for public scrutiny (which, as we all know, can be pretty harsh if you're not ready). My only negative point is that as a career scientist, I don't have time to "sell" the book properly. I'm one of those people who should probably have gone with a traditional agent and publisher, but I chose Indie because I am a bit of a control freak and also this started out as just a hobby. Now it is much more to me, of course, but I have to deal with having what seems to be a pretty good science fiction book that, unfortunately, few will ever know about. So, lowering the price to gain readership seems like a reasonable gamble for me. Only time will tell...
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« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2010, 08:57:52 AM » |
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Thanks for the list of advice, Jack. I was wondering if you could elaborate on one of your points, though. You said $1.99 is the sweet spot, but do you mean for total sales, or total income? Have you experimented with a $0.99 price? If you did, was it worth it? I've posted mine that low in an attempt for impulse purchases, but at the same time, I've wondered if a slightly higher price would come across as a bit more...professional? When it comes to impulse buys, is there even a difference between $0.99 and $1.99?
You have a great blog, by the way. I read plenty of posts there before I ever uploaded my book to Kindle, and you most certainly gain readers from there. Thanks for the kind words. I just blogged in more detail about this: http://jakonrath.blogspot.com/2010/03/ja-konrath-kindle-sales-30k-ebooks-in.htmlI've tried 99 cents and didn't find any difference in sales between that and $1.99. If you remember, Amazon used to discount Kindle titles, so most of mine sold for $1.59. When the discounting stopped, and my books went to $1.99, there was no drop off in sales. I'm currently experimenting with a $4.99 price point, and it is selling far fewer than my $1.99 books, and not earning nearly as much in royalties. I believe $2.99 will be the sweet spot once the royalty rate changes.
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« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2010, 09:31:17 AM » |
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8. Decent stories. Name recognition and cheap prices only go so far. If the ebooks aren't any good, sales will drop off. Not only should the writing be stellar, but the Kindle formatting should be perfect. A great story with terrible word formatting won't sell. Period.
(quoted from the blog post) Something tells me this is one of the hardest things to acknowledge as a self-published writer. If sales drop off, its easy to blame lack of press, or a bad product description, or a book cover, but to sit back and look objectively at your own writing, and possibly discover you just aren't as good as you thought... Frightening. Glad for the advice, Jack. I've scoured over several of your product descriptions, and I'll probably change mine to a lengthier, more in-depth description. I was under the impression that a short teaser that didn't tell too much would work better, but I'll try out a longer one, per your suggestion. David Dalglish
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« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2010, 10:02:52 AM » |
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What am I willing to do? I suppose anything not immoral or illegal. 
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« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2010, 10:17:26 AM » |
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I responded to this on the other board, but I'll respond again, perhaps a little more thoughtfully this time.
My first indie romance In the Mood hit #3336 last night. That was the best it's done so far, and that was exciting. I'd love it to do even better, of course. But I think it's more important to look at trends. I sold over half as many books in the first three days of March than I did in all of February (my first month as an indie author). I see that as a promising trend that suggests I'm successfully getting my name out there.
The thing is, I plan on selling a lot of books this way. I have a backlist that I intend to put out over the course of this year, along with some new stories. What I want is for romance readers to start thinking, "Oh, it's the beginning of the month, I better go look for Ellen Fisher's next book!" So far, it's interesting to note that my indie sales aren't spilling over to the three romances I have on Amazon with an e-press, even though they are also priced well below mass market prices. What I want eventually is for people to enjoy my books enough that they want to go find everything I've written and buy it.
Also, I want to make money at this. My husband passed away a few years ago, so I'm a single mom who has to put four kids through college. Just typing that sentence sends a shiver down my spine, especially when I consider the oldest is rapidly closing on fifteen *shudders*. I need to treat this as a business, not as a hobby. Circumstances are different for every writer, of course, but for me, now that I've taken up my pen again, I intend to make money at it.
So on the question of ninety-nine cents... for my first excursion into indie authordom, I chose a book I didn't mind selling at that price. It's a novella, and it's one of my better books, but since it's short, ninety-nine cents strikes me as a reasonable price, and I hope it will get me up into the 1,000 club eventually. I'd rather not sell full novels at that price if I can help it, due to the amount of work one puts into them. But there is a ton of competition out there, much of it very, very good, and I think an indie author has to be realistic, and charge what the traffic will bear. So we'll see what price point I can reasonably charge for my other books.
At any rate, I've rambled on, but my point is that I'm going for long-term sales here. Certainly I do want to reach the top 1,000 club. But more than that, I want romance readers to actively start looking for my new releases. In short, I want to build a readership. That's my major goal, and getting to the 1,000 club would be a step toward that, I think, because it does seem to be the point where people really start noticing you.
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« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2010, 10:36:35 AM » |
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Thanks for commenting, Ellen. I have to admit that after reading about your situation, I feel rather abashed at my trivial reasons for worrying about rankings. As a father myself, can fully understand your concerns and your current motivation.
Might I make a suggestion? To better your chances of picking up readers here on KindleBoards, you should add an html link to books in your signature. Many here also include pictures of their books (or even large obnoxious banners like mine) to help draw in readers. If you don't know how, the moderators can help you.
Good luck your both your writing and your sales!
p.s. Everyone reading this, go out and sample or buy Ellen Fisher's books right now!!!
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« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2010, 10:50:50 AM » |
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p.s. Everyone reading this, go out and sample or buy Ellen Fisher's books right now!!!
But what if I'm not in the mood ?Sorry, couldn't help it. David Dalglish
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« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2010, 11:09:20 AM » |
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I agree that as more and more titles are uploaded, it will get more difficult to get in the Top 1,000, and there are many books taking a good chunk of those slots. I don't know the details of the promotions that get those new ones in for free, but it looks like Amazon is moving out the free indies that I suppose slipped in before the current pricing structure. With 420,000 Kindle books up there, it shows you how poorly the average kindle book sells when you can be in the top 10 percent and get a sale or two a day. And I predict the floodgates will open by summer when the higher royalty kicks in, more established authors begin to post their backlists, and enterprising small publishers gobble up e-rights for older books. Though it's growing, and it's important to us, it's till a drop in the bucket of the entire publishing industry. I notice a proliferation of 99 cent books, which is also going to skew the charts here in the early experimental phase. But I still go with whatever makes the most money as more important than any ranking. As Joe said, if you're int he Top 100, you are on more lists, but other than that I doubt consumers care whether you're ranked 900 or 9,000 or 90,000, because I doubt if anybody else look at that. Scott Nicholson http://hauntedcomputerbooks.blogspot.com
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« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2010, 12:51:28 PM » |
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One additional thing - we all know that many of the Indie books in the top 1000 are selling for $0.99 - which is an obvious, but easy, "sacrifice" to make to gain more readers. Those of you who were around last year might remember the thread I started in December called "Will $0.99 become the new standard for Indie books" in which I postulated that $0.99 might be a reasonable standard price for Indie book when you compare them to other digital media like song tracks which go for that price. That was a popular thread in December and many here chose to drop their book prices to $0.99 because of that discussion. At least two of those authors chose to keep their books at $0.99 and are still in the top 1000 today. Even though I was the OP in that thread, I chose a different path. After selling something like 300 books in the last 2.5 weeks of December (pushing Cyberdrome in to the top 500-600) I raised my price to 2.99 on January 1st. Was I crazy? Maybe. But as I mentioned before, my sales dropped down to around 200/month after that, but I actually earned more due to the higher royalties (a dollar per book sure beats 35 cents!). Anyway, my goal now is simply to edge back towards a lower price to see if my sales can increase enough to reach the top 1000 again. I will not go all the way down to $0.99 however, I do have my limits (and I've "been there /done that" as they say). There ARE books in my genre in the top 1000 selling for $1.99 (one with far fewer 5-star reviews than mine), and I'd like to see if Cyberdrome can become one. Again, time will tell (if I'm patient enough to wait, that is.) Update: as of 3:50 EST Cyberdrome jumped to #2,546, so now it's only 1,546 positions out of the top 1000! Go baby go!  The reality is that this is just part of the oscillation in sales that happens every day (to all of us, I'm sure). I see a bunch of sales for a few hours, but then nothing for the next ten. Where's the "snowball effect" that's supposed to come with higher rankings? My genre rank (high tech science fiction) is at #11 right now, just ahead of "The Diamond Age" by Neal Stephenson (selling for $9.99) -- shouldn't that garnish me a few extra sales just because, you know, I'm selling better than Neal Stephenson for one whole hour? Is there no justice in this world? Okay, enough blabbing. I should be working, or at least, writing right now. Maybe if I stop paying attention to the rankings for a few hours, things will keep getting better. A watched pot never boils, right? Oh, speaking of boiling water, it's afternoon coffee time (don't worry, it's Starbuck's Via DECAF!)  Cheers, Gang! p.s. Feel free to post your story while I drink my coffee - I'll check back in a little while to see what's new...
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« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2010, 01:00:15 PM » |
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Interesting discussion ... while hitting the Top 1,000 is definitely a thrill, at the end of the day I think total revenue is more important. Now, someone may give away a book to move up the charts or have a "loss leader" at free or $0.99 to try to improve sales of later books in the series, but that's still simply trying to increase total revenue down the road.
If you asked me if I'd rather be in the Top 1,000 or be making double the money at a lower ranking? I'd take the lower ranking. At first, it was great to get my stuff out there and on bestseller lists, but I would actually like to make a living at this. The thrill is nice, but I'd like to pay rent, or I'll have to go back to a job I hate and stop (or dramatically cut back on) my writing. Even if I'll probably never make as much writing as I made as a lawyer, I spend at least 40 hours a week writing and editing and promoting, and whatever price point will make me a living, that's what I'll do. I wouldn't let a desire for a better Amazon ranking outweigh that.
Of course, I DO like to be higher on lists, but mainly because I hope it will have a "snowball effect" and help improve my visibility and lead to more sales. I feel that being "Top 500" or "#1 in so-and-so category" lends a certain legitimacy and may cause readers to say, "Hey, let me check that out." (But what do I know?)
All that being said, it's NOT all about the money (or I'd still be a lawyer). For me, it's about wanting to write. But, as I said, if I DON'T make at least enough money to pay bills (not to be rich, mind you, just enough to get by), then I won't be able to write nearly as much as I would like to. I am married and there will hopefully be kids in our future and I need to take care of my family first and foremost.
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« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2010, 04:06:15 PM » |
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I'm a reader only, not a writer. For the record. . . .I have never paid attention to rankings. . . .don't even look at it. Had no idea Amazon had such a thing until folks here started discussing it. So, that's just one data point, but from my perspective, it's really not something I think you should worry about. . . . . .
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« Reply #23 on: March 05, 2010, 07:33:09 AM » |
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To David Derrico, Obviously the question this thread poses is a metaphor for the bigger question of, "What are you willing to do (or give up) to be a successful writer?" - so I changed the title of the thread. In that light, I have to say that I admire your dedication to the pursuit of writing, David, and being willing to give up what was obviously a well-paying career job to write full time. I would love to do that as well, but since I already have two small children (and a mortgage, two car payments, life insurance policies, etc.) I don't see that as an option anymore. Also, I actually like my career job (I'm a research scientist - oceanographer - be exact) and my ideal situation would to be able to do both part-time, like write 4 hours a day and then work the next 4 or 5. I think I got into writing hoping to be able to make enough money on the first book to be able to cut back to part-time while working on the 2nd book and so on. Understanding the real world of publishing now, I no longer have such lofty goals. I am making pretty good money on Kindle sales right now, but how long can one book last here? Without other books to throw into the mix, I'm stuck being a "one-trick pony" - or at least one-book author. I have 5 other projects outlined, including the sequel to Cyberdrome, but simply no time to work on them between career and family. Which is, of course, why I spend the few minutes of free time each day, here on the boards, talking about books instead of writing them... If I am to be a one-book author, then at least I am content to know that Cyberdrome is the very best book I could write (took me 7 years to complete and another 2 years to polish and "finalize" so it had better be good, right?)  JR
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« Reply #24 on: March 05, 2010, 08:41:29 AM » |
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(I have a charting program to watch this) Joseph, would you mind sharing about this tracking program? I would like to do this too.
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