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« Reply #25 on: March 16, 2010, 07:10:54 PM » |
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Quite right. No conditioning. My razor and tooth brush are different. However, my two laptops have lithium-ion batteries and advise conditioning, in contrast to the conventional notions out there. I'm happy with how things are going with my Kindle in all areas.
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« Reply #26 on: March 17, 2010, 03:16:36 AM » |
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Mine only needs to be charged every 2-3 weeks. I loooove the battery life. I only ever turn WN on to buy a book and then immediately turn it off. 
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« Reply #27 on: March 17, 2010, 06:06:13 AM » |
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I see that only KindleChickie is actually engaged in what is called battery "conditioning," discharging fully and recharging.
Does it count if I don't do it intentionally? Sometimes Eleanor the Kindle runs down completely. I recharge my K1 battery either when there's about 1/4 left or when the Kindle begs to be recharged.
But as Eeyore said, the Kindle battery is not supposed to need conditioning. I know some people with original batteries have had to replace them by now. I don't know if it's a factor of I'm just not using mine as much as other people or what, but my battery is still behaving pretty much as it was when I first bought it. Betsy
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« Reply #28 on: March 17, 2010, 07:55:03 PM » |
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Because I dock mine nightly...  Although lithium-ion is memory-free in terms of performance deterioration, batteries with fuel gauges exhibit what engineers refer to as "digital memory". Here is the reason: Short discharges with subsequent recharges do not provide the periodic calibration needed to synchronize the fuel gauge with the battery's state-of-charge. A deliberate full discharge and recharge every 30 charges corrects this problem. Letting the battery run down to the cut-off point in the equipment will do this. If ignored, the fuel gauge will become increasingly less accurate. http://batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
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« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2010, 08:06:31 PM » |
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Amazon is sending me a new Kindle. They agreed that something is not right with my battery life. I should have it tomorrow. I was a bit frustrated that it took them more than two weeks and four phone calls to get a replacement, but I am happy it's finally resolved.
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« Reply #30 on: March 17, 2010, 08:11:11 PM » |
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I dock my devices every night so it gets a nightly charge. But once every month or two I will allow the battery to drain all the way down before recharging. It takes about 2.5 days before it will drain all the way down and then I turn it off for a couple of hours and let it rest before charging it back to full again and then turn it off and let it rest fully charged for a couple of hours.
I know this "deep discharge" is good for some types of batteries, but not all - can I ask where you learned of this trick? And do you know what sort of batteries are in the Kindle? I think NiCad (Nickle-Cadnium?) is one sort, and NiMH (Nickel Metal Hydride) might be another, but I don't know if either is designed for deep discharge or not. Thanks - Tbb
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« Reply #31 on: March 18, 2010, 04:36:59 AM » |
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The Kindle is Lithium polymer, which is akin to Lithium Ion and doesn't NEED the deep discharge as it doesn't loose it's notion of "full". But it's still not a bad idea to do it now and then, so that the gauge that tells you how full it is can get re-calibrated. . . . . . .
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« Reply #32 on: March 18, 2010, 09:06:58 AM » |
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I know this "deep discharge" is good for some types of batteries, but not all - can I ask where you learned of this trick? And do you know what sort of batteries are in the Kindle? I think NiCad (Nickle-Cadnium?) is one sort, and NiMH (Nickel Metal Hydride) might be another, but I don't know if either is designed for deep discharge or not.
Thanks - Tbb
It is not the deep discharge, but rather the resetting of the full and low "meter" of the battery. If you are never going to full discharge, then it will not know where the full discharge level is. I work in a technical field and do a lot of reading.
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« Reply #33 on: March 18, 2010, 09:29:56 AM » |
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Now I know a lot more than I used to. Thanks.
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« Reply #34 on: March 18, 2010, 03:11:00 PM » |
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Interesting thread. I just replaced my K1 battery and continue to charge my Kindle at least every other day (usually 4-5 hours of reading). I just don't like to see the battery as less than full. Maybe I should re-think this.... And maybe my old battery isn't as bad as I thought it was. (Good thing I stuck it back in the 'fridge!) N 
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« Reply #35 on: March 19, 2010, 08:34:53 AM » |
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With WN off and 2-3 hours of reading (in spurts- so in and out of sleep mode a number of times) per day, I easily get 10+ days on my k2i before my battery gets down to about 25% and then I recharge. I have gone as long as 2 full weeks without charging, but I generally charge it overnight once it looks like it is at about 25%...
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« Reply #36 on: March 19, 2010, 09:15:24 AM » |
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Good to know, now I won't feel so guilty about letting Eleanor the Kindle run down completely now and then.  I'm just resetting the gauge, not forgetting to charge her. Yeah, that's what I'm doing. Betsy
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« Reply #37 on: March 19, 2010, 09:22:38 AM » |
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I usually read about two hours per day, often more on weekends.
I have a K1, which I almost never let drop below the 3/4 charged point. Makes me nervous when it starts to drop! So I probably charge it about twice per week. I never leave Whispernet on unless I'm ordering a book or waiting overnight for one that I've pre-ordered.
I'm assuming when people say they are getting 8-10 days out of a charge, they are letting the battery drop way below where I do. Is that correct for some of you who only re-charge every 10 days or so?
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« Reply #38 on: March 19, 2010, 10:01:49 AM » |
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I generally leave my K2 plugged in all the time I'm not actually reading on it. I've been doing this for awhile trying to get it to update wirelessly, so keeping it plugged in was necessary to avoid running down the battery in a couple of days. Now I've manually updated my K2, so I am more able to leave the wireless off and not necessarily plug the K in, but I haven't changed my ways yet.
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