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« on: August 22, 2010, 10:30:50 AM »

I have the K1 and I ordered two of the K3s. One for me and one as a birthday gift for my husband. The K1 will go to my 24 yr old daughter. Rather then deregister it I think I may just leave all three on the same account so we can share books. I've experimented with sending books from the archives back onto the K1 so she can read them and purchased a few new ones for the K3s. Seems to work fine. I'll worry about organizing my K3 later.

She knows not to order anything without checking with me first and I've got a lot of books that she'd love (Dexter & Sookie series) and want her to have them. This will work, right? Now how about putting everything I have in the archives on hers, deregister the K1, and then have her set up her own account? She'll be able to read all of those but once she deletes from the device they're gone forever for her? Shouldn't be so complicated but I just want to make sure she can read that first batch of books.

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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2010, 10:44:13 AM »

I think that is the way it would work.  Normally leaving books on a Kindle, deregistering it from an account, and then passing it on is considered a no-no, but being in the immediate family . . . .
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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2010, 11:40:03 AM »

If you trust her having access to your account then I would just leave it be. 

However if she wants her own account (she may find it more convenient) then you could do your second option.  If she deletes a book that she wants back later, she can always de-register from her account, re-register to your account, download the book and then switch back to her account.
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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2010, 12:23:14 PM »

.....how about putting everything I have in the archives on hers, deregister the K1, and then have her set up her own account? She'll be able to read all of those but once she deletes from the device they're gone forever for her? ....

You can't 'put them in the archives'. Any book not downloaded onto the K1 is automatically in the archive. When you deregister it from the account, access to that archive is lost. If you want her to keep any of those books, you need to download them onto the K1 before deregistering it. She'll have to make sure she doesn't delete them as she won't be able to get them back unless she backs them up.

However, having said that, it's not actually legal to do so. You really should completely clear the device before you hand it over as you'll be breaking Amazon's ToS. Personally, I would leave her on your account for now and see how that goes - many people find using gift cards work the best with multiple users as each person can contribute to the funds available up to whatever amount they want to spend.


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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2010, 12:33:39 PM »

Any book not downloaded onto the K1 is automatically in the archive. When you deregister it from the account, access to that archive is lost. If you want her to keep any of those books, you need to download them onto the K1 before deregistering it. She'll have to make sure she doesn't delete them as she won't be able to get them back unless she backs them up.

That's essentially what the OP said.
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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2010, 12:46:05 PM »

That's essentially what the OP said.

Well, the OP said "...now about putting everything I have in the archives on hers...." which could be taken two ways i.e. 'I will download everything that's currently in the archive onto her device' OR 'I will put all the books on my account into the archive section on her device'. I initially took it as the latter though I think they meant the former and I was trying to clarify just in case.



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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2010, 01:16:46 PM »

I took it as the first -- especially reading the next two sentences.
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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2010, 03:47:20 PM »

 Huh If the K1 user has a computer then she can archive the books onto the computer then if she wants to she can delete them from the Kindle. Later she can download the books from the computer to the K1 if she wants to reread them. Wink
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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2010, 06:08:32 PM »

Not wirelessly, but you could connect with the USB and move the files onto the Kindle.

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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2010, 06:40:39 PM »

lin has it right: It is against Amazon's terms of service to sell or give away a Kindle with any of your purchased content still on it.  That's because when you purchase a title you're essentailly purchasing a license that is non-transferable.

BUT, Amazon does permit you to register an unlimited number of devices to your account.  And any given book can be simultaneously present on up to (usually) 6 of them.  AND, there is no need to give a 'sharer' on your account access to any of your account details. . . . .my brother shares my account.  He can download any book in my archive from his Kindle.  He also browses for books he might like using his own Amazon account.  If he finds one he'd like to have, he either d/l's directly on his Kindle or sends me an e-mail and asks me to 'one click' it for him from my account.  He gives me gift certificates periodically to cover what he buys.  And, remember, he can't buy something without ME knowing it because the confirmation e-mail comes to my email address!

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« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2010, 07:06:23 PM »

I have the K1 and I ordered two of the K3s. One for me and one as a birthday gift for my husband. The K1 will go to my 24 yr old daughter. Rather then deregister it I think I may just leave all three on the same account so we can share books. I've experimented with sending books from the archives back onto the K1 so she can read them and purchased a few new ones for the K3s. Seems to work fine. I'll worry about organizing my K3 later.

She knows not to order anything without checking with me first and I've got a lot of books that she'd love (Dexter & Sookie series) and want her to have them. This will work, right? Now how about putting everything I have in the archives on hers, deregister the K1, and then have her set up her own account? She'll be able to read all of those but once she deletes from the device they're gone forever for her? Shouldn't be so complicated but I just want to make sure she can read that first batch of books.

Thanks for your help!

I'd leave them all on your account, at least for now.  Both my daughters are on my account (and my husband).  They just give me the $$ for the books they buy.

If she wanted her own account down the road, she'd lose access to any books from your account that aren't on her K1 as she'd lose access to your archives.  As others point out, according to Amazon's TOS she shouldn't keep any of the books from your account if she registers it to her own account.
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« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2010, 08:17:43 AM »

Just to confirm my thinking. If I buy a kindle as a gift for X and it is on my account X is able to charge BOOKS to my account (no problem) but can they charge other items as well i.e. am I giving X complete access to my Amazon account?
I have a feeling the answer is going to be "yes". Tell me I'm wrong I really want to give a Kindle to X but......... 


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« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2010, 08:20:19 AM »

No. . .the answer is NO!  You do NOT need to give X access to your Amazon account or your credit card.  ALL they can do is buy books via the Kindle. . .and when they do, you get the e-mail so you can let them know what they owe you. . . .or, better yet, have them send a gift certificate first, you apply it, and then keep track of how much credit they have.  My brother and I have this arrangement.  And, actually, he browses for books on his own Amazon account and then sends me an e-mail when he wants one. . . .I do the one click thing, be sure to send it to his Kindle and voila!  Everybody's happy!
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« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2010, 12:24:21 PM »

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You made my day with your response. Better yet you will have made someone else's day but they don't know it yet.
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« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2010, 05:49:38 PM »

If you give person X your Amazon username and password then yes, they can buy anything on your account but if you do it like Ann suggested, you personally register their Kindle to your account they can still buy kindle books directly from their devise but they can't order anything else without your password.
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« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2010, 07:21:48 PM »

Thanks for the help/info guys! I've taken all of the books in my archives (once I finish with  book I remove it from the K1 ) that she may like and put them back on the K1 so she can read them. For now I'm just going to keep all three Kindles on the same account. She has more then enough to read with all of my old books and my husband and I will have books that we'll both want to read. I like the gift card idea. Happy reading all!
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