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« Reply #450 on: February 03, 2012, 10:00:29 AM » |
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Don't let what you've heard about "Dance" keep you from reading it. I thought it was better than "Feast." It is slower paced, but I enjoyed it a lot more on my second read through. Since I knew the outcome of the book, I was able to pay more attention to the details and just enjoy the ride.
I would also be surprised if the next book took five years to write. The circumstances surrounding the delay of the last two were unique. The middle of the story can be the hardest part for many writers, myself included, and with a story this vast I can see how the "Meereenese Knot" as he called it could easily form. He still managed to get Books 2 and 3 out in a two-year timeframe back in the day, and he's also going to be under more pressure to not let the TV show catch up to him.
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« Reply #451 on: February 14, 2012, 12:29:45 PM » |
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I just watched the first season on netflix. And I just ordered the first book on audiobook. Something to help on those long commutes. I'm curious to see how close they stayed to the book. I know there are some changes to True Blood from Charlene Harris's series.
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Jorja Tabu
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« Reply #452 on: February 14, 2012, 01:01:25 PM » |
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I am grinding my way through Dance...I'm honestly not even sure why it's taking me so long, but my best guess is less investment in the outcome. It feels like the series grew so vast that pulling it back in and refocusing the attention after Feast is difficult...
I adored the television series and can't wait for season 2--I just watched the promos up on youtube and I never do that!
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« Reply #453 on: February 14, 2012, 01:09:21 PM » |
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I just watched the first season on netflix. And I just ordered the first book on audiobook. Something to help on those long commutes. I'm curious to see how close they stayed to the book. I know there are some changes to True Blood from Charlene Harris's series.
Nana
The first season was pretty darned close to the book. Some of the battle-type stuff was scaled down, fewer characters, but faithful for the most part. All indications are that season 2 is going to diverge more. A lot closer than True Blood.  |
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« Reply #454 on: February 14, 2012, 02:30:22 PM » |
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The first season was pretty darned close to the book. Some of the battle-type stuff was scaled down, fewer characters, but faithful for the most part. All indications are that season 2 is going to diverge more. A lot closer than True Blood. ooh, I'm off to search out the trailer. I can't wait. so excited. nana |
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« Reply #455 on: February 16, 2012, 10:03:03 PM » |
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Still mourning the loss of Khal Drogo.
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« Reply #456 on: February 17, 2012, 11:28:29 AM » |
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Still mourning the loss of Khal Drogo.
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I skip all the scenes at the end of the season where he's sick... In the book, I didn't have such a hard time, but...Jason Momoa...Wow  He's hard to get over! |
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« Reply #457 on: February 17, 2012, 10:53:13 PM » |
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I skip all the scenes at the end of the season where he's sick... In the book, I didn't have such a hard time, but...Jason Momoa...Wow He's hard to get over! This. He was perfect as Khal Drogo and I didn't want him to die. |
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« Reply #458 on: February 20, 2012, 09:02:26 PM » |
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Jason Mamoa and his fine....well you get the idea. He was so perfect and well, nice to look at. He will be so missed. Conan was a hot mess, but I stayed engaged just for him.
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« Reply #459 on: February 20, 2012, 11:34:56 PM » |
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I hate to be the wet rag, but I have to give up on these books. I bought the four book set for my kindle a while back. Never got around to reading them, but with the new tv season fittin to start, I decided to dive in. My first impression was the books are so vividly detailed where the tv shows are kinda bland or just lacking color. I got thru the first book because I knew where it was taking me, but when I hit book two I just lost interest. It is just too much detail and it takes forever for anything to happen. When the nights watch with Jon are climbing a treacherous mountain, it took 5 clicks to get over it. I kept thinking, there is so much detail, this must be important or culminate in....something. Wrong. It was just part of a journey that it taking the whole book with a whole lotta nuttin to show for it. So I decided to go have a peek on the books wiki site and that did it for me. The plot is just soooo convoluted and drawn out, with too many characters. I lost interest. I don't want to spend hours going thru banners, what their signal is, who the are pledged too, etc, etc, it seems never ending and pointless to the extreme. Needless to say, the books are not my cup o tea.  |
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« Reply #460 on: February 21, 2012, 02:41:37 AM » |
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My first impression was the books are so vividly detailed where the tv shows are kinda bland or just lacking color. That was my opinion watching the first few episodes too, I didn't get the impression, for instance, that the Starks were one of the really great families of Westeros, for instance most of what everybody was wearing instead than rugged and practical felt ill-made and peasant-like to me. I don't want to spend hours going thru banners, what their signal is, who the are pledged too, etc, etc, it seems never ending and pointless to the extreme. Needless to say, the books are not my cup o tea. Well, as always pointless is in the eye of the beholder, anyway that kind of information is part of the backmatter in the novels, no 'hours of going thru' it in the actual story. You can find thing like 'the knight wore the crimson and gold of Lannister', or ' the Bolton standard flew on the higher tower'. |
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« Reply #461 on: February 21, 2012, 08:55:31 AM » |
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Book 6 needs the love and attention of a very talented editor, because A Dance with Dragons did not appear to be edited at all.
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« Reply #462 on: February 21, 2012, 01:47:32 PM » |
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I'm loving watching the series through with my partner. I might read the books once it's over, but I really want to experience the show first. I'm loving the actors.
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« Reply #463 on: February 21, 2012, 02:38:40 PM » |
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That was my opinion watching the first few episodes too, I didn't get the impression, for instance, that the Starks were one of the really great families of Westeros, for instance most of what everybody was wearing instead than rugged and practical felt ill-made and peasant-like to me.
Well, as always pointless is in the eye of the beholder, anyway that kind of information is part of the backmatter in the novels, no 'hours of going thru' it in the actual story. You can find thing like 'the knight wore the crimson and gold of Lannister', or ' the Bolton standard flew on the higher tower'.
I'm sorry Seleya, but I did spends hours reading in book two about all the different houses, and banners, and who they are pledged to, etc. Like I posted earlier, in the beginning I thought it must be important if the author is giving it this much attention, only to find it is just his style to go on and on over things that wind up meaning exactly nothing in plot advancement. I am sure I am in the minority, but I am comfortable with my opinion. I gave it a book and almost 2/3 before drawing an opinion. My opinion is I would rather chew glass, or maybe I will just stick to the TV show. |
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« Reply #464 on: February 21, 2012, 03:00:07 PM » |
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Yeah, the series is definitely not for people who don't like a lot of detail, tons of characters, complex plot lines etc. Martin is very descriptive and it takes a lot of work from readers to keep all the characters and their motivations (and ties to main plot lines) straight for sure.
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« Reply #465 on: February 21, 2012, 05:45:46 PM » |
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I love a lot od description, helps me feel like I'm there, but even I had a hard time. I think that's just the author's style.
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« Reply #466 on: February 22, 2012, 07:05:14 AM » |
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I love all (or most of?) the description. Some of it is there for world-building, and some of it does come into play. Martin believes in Westeros and all the rest, and can tell you about it with such authority, that you believe it, too. This is the exact place where a lot of authors fail, and fail hard. I think if an author can know that much about their setting and/or characters -- whether or not they share all they know -- that they're on the way to one hell of a book.
I get that it's not going to work for everyone, and in a different type of book I wouldn't appreciate it much either, but it works for me here.
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« Reply #467 on: February 23, 2012, 02:27:57 AM » |
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The blu-ray of season one is now down to 34.99 on Amazon.  That is a steal. I'd have happily payed the original 54.99 price. Can't wait to get my hands on it on March 6th. |
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« Reply #468 on: February 23, 2012, 03:39:26 AM » |
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Looking forward to reading the books and will then start watching the show |
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« Reply #469 on: February 23, 2012, 03:58:16 AM » |
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Looking forward to reading the books and will then start watching the show I think I'm going to do this too. Added the first book into my ever-expanding "to read" pile. |
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« Reply #470 on: February 27, 2012, 08:26:41 PM » |
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I skipped the feasts after the second book.  "The table was laden with honey laced goose truffles, greased pork roasts with pickled onions, plum diggle wumdrumps with crinklebatted unicorn fats...And then the fish course started..." But a lot of the other extraneous detail I enjoyed--until Dance. I don't care--I'm breaking up with the whole series until the entire thing is complete. It's an important decision in a woman's life, to end such a meaningful relationship, but it has to be done. Feast made me roll my eyes for weeks, and Dance made me furious. |
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« Reply #471 on: February 28, 2012, 06:27:48 AM » |
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I skipped the feasts after the second book. "The table was laden with honey laced goose truffles, greased pork roasts with pickled onions, plum diggle wumdrumps with crinklebatted unicorn fats...And then the fish course started..." But a lot of the other extraneous detail I enjoyed--until Dance. I don't care--I'm breaking up with the whole series until the entire thing is complete. It's an important decision in a woman's life, to end such a meaningful relationship, but it has to be done. Feast made me roll my eyes for weeks, and Dance made me furious. I actually agree with that! There are a few paragraphs of food descriptions I jumped over. But the rest I've read through - and enjoyed! |
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« Reply #472 on: March 09, 2012, 01:22:26 AM » |
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The Stark kids sing along to the opening theme, from the commentary on episode 3 of the BD/DVD. |
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« Reply #473 on: March 09, 2012, 06:01:50 AM » |
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The Stark kids sing along to the opening theme, from the commentary on episode 3 of the BD/DVD. ROFLMBO!!! |
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« Reply #474 on: March 23, 2012, 10:06:58 PM » |
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Can't wait for the upcoming HBO series of GOT! Still bummed about Khal Drogo...
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