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« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2009, 07:12:22 PM » |
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12. When Claire gets back, she all but pushes Jenny out the door. Why do you think she did that?
Claire needed privacy to administer the penicillin. The evilness in me wants to think that Claire got some satisfaction pushing Jenny out. That let Jenny know that Claire is still Jamie’s wife and Jenny is only his sister. Claire got a little even for the reaction she got when she first got there. I agree. Claire took a stand and let Jenny know she was top dog with Jamie, not Jenny. Was Hamish mentioned when they talked about Leoch? I don’t remember seeing any more about him. No, Hamish wasn't mentioned. That's something I always found rather odd. I wonder who the men on the ship work for. Did that person hide the treasure or did that person just know about it? I guess we'll find out.  But it was quite a coincidence that they showed up when Young Ian was there. |
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« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2009, 07:16:47 PM » |
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I almost dropped the kindle when I read Laheer's name. I was so upset last week walking around in a daze, wondering why doesn't Jenny like Claire anymore?...My opinion of her went way down in my book
My K nearly hit the floor too. Of the people I didn't want to see again, Laoghaire is up at the top of the list. My opinion of Jenny has also dropped. I had thought of her as a strong, stubborn woman. Now she seems scared. Jamie has a very morbid streak yes he does. He needs to quit wishing for death or the fairies decide to grant his wishes. 6. What did you think when the teenage girl showed up at the bedroom door and yelled, “Daddy?”
In my moment of horror, I didn't think about age and thought of Mary McNab. She was also my first thought but the dates didn't work out. |
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« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2009, 07:20:24 PM » |
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Young Jamie has his own house. Three guesses as to why he doesn't want to live with his mother. Nothing is said in the books, but it's pretty obvious, as you said, that Jenny thinks of herself as laird. Maybe we should say "lairdy."
ah, Gertie, is there a definition of lairdy that I don't know about or did you mean the one I do know about? |
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« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2009, 08:05:39 PM » |
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ah, Gertie, is there a definition of lairdy that I don't know about or did you mean the one I do know about? Well, I don't know the one you know about, but I just combined laird and lady to get lairdy. Please do enlighten me. You know, I'm kind of old and out of the loop. |
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« Reply #29 on: May 20, 2009, 08:06:19 AM » |
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I like that Fergus was comfortable enough and accepting of Claire that he could tell her about being in love and about his dreams.
Fergus is one of my favorite characters. The Scots are so fatalistic, and Fergus just takes things as they come. But, there is also a dangerous side to him. It is great to see him go from a street urchin of 10 when Jamie found him, to a grown man who can be so chivalrous, but also ruthless. |
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« Reply #30 on: May 20, 2009, 08:10:07 AM » |
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Well, I don't know the one you know about, but I just combined laird and lady to get lairdy. Please do enlighten me. You know, I'm kind of old and out of the loop. I just googled it. Um, not sure I can post it here.  |
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« Reply #32 on: May 20, 2009, 09:06:31 AM » |
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« Reply #33 on: May 20, 2009, 09:09:45 AM » |
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I may be too idealist. Jamie transferred Lallybroch to his nephew because he expected to die. When he came back, a loving family would have transferred it back to him, especially after he was pardoned.
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« Reply #35 on: May 20, 2009, 09:58:11 AM » |
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I may be too idealist. Jamie transferred Lallybroch to his nephew because he expected to die. When he came back, a loving family would have transferred it back to him, especially after he was pardoned.
That is a good point. But, even after he was pardoned, he was still known as Red Jamie, Traitor to the British. If he had owned it, the English probably would have tried to figure out a way to take it away. If he owned nothing, it was much easier for him to avoid drawing too much attention to himself. |
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« Reply #36 on: May 20, 2009, 10:08:31 AM » |
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I may be too idealist. Jamie transferred Lallybroch to his nephew because he expected to die. When he came back, a loving family would have transferred it back to him, especially after he was pardoned.
Yup, that's what I was thinking but tlshaw makes a good point that the British may have then found a way to take possession of it, certainly in the early years. 20 years on, who knows? But at the very least, I'd expect a loving family to welcome him back and let him take his place to run it again, even if not have his name on the deeds. Knowing Jamie, he'd not take it even if offered but the offer would have been nice. I think Jamie is too unselfish for his own good sometimes. |
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« Reply #37 on: May 20, 2009, 06:27:51 PM » |
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I just googled it. Um, not sure I can post it here. Looks like you found the one I know about. So we can agree that while the general opinion of Jenny has decreased somewhat it is better that implied by the term lairdy? |
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« Reply #38 on: May 20, 2009, 07:09:26 PM » |
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Looks like you found the one I know about. So we can agree that while the general opinion of Jenny has decreased somewhat it is better that implied by the term lairdy?
Yes, we certainly can agree to that.  Perhaps we should just call her El Jefe? |
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« Reply #39 on: May 20, 2009, 07:16:49 PM » |
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Yes, we certainly can agree to that. Perhaps we should just call her El Jefe? I can go along with that one since I have no idea what it means |
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« Reply #40 on: May 20, 2009, 07:34:53 PM » |
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Ok, I am going to play the devil's advocate here. We are mad at Jenny for trying to send Claire away, thinking she is doing it for selfish reasons. But, the first time Jamie left Lallybroch with Claire, he lost her and was an empty shell for 20 years. Was Jenny afraid that history could repeat itself? True, Jamie was alone, but he had built a new life in Edinburgh and he was able to see his family on occasion, because they were staying put. What if he left with Claire again and she left him? He would be totally destroyed and would not even have his family to turn to. I always like to stir the pot!  Nice try but Jenny had thought that Claire was dead and now has no idea why she stayed away. An unselfish Jenny would have waited to find out what was going on. I disagree that Jamie was an empty shell. He had a very busy life. There were things and people that he cared about. He did marry again and had 2 daughters - he would have thought of them as his daughters. He was helping to support his family and making sure the estate and the people on it were ok. He was taking action against something he felt strongly about... No, he wasn't an empty shell. Yes, Jenny's reasons seem selfish on the surface, but underneath, they are completely selfish.  |
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« Reply #41 on: May 20, 2009, 07:46:03 PM » |
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I can go along with that one since I have no idea what it means
It's Spanish for chief or leader. |
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« Reply #42 on: May 21, 2009, 07:01:02 AM » |
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Nice try but Jenny had thought that Claire was dead and now has no idea why she stayed away. An unselfish Jenny would have waited to find out what was going on. I disagree that Jamie was an empty shell. He had a very busy life. There were things and people that he cared about. He did marry again and had 2 daughters - he would have thought of them as his daughters. He was helping to support his family and making sure the estate and the people on it were ok. He was taking action against something he felt strongly about... No, he wasn't an empty shell. I see your point. Yes, Jamie had things to do and people to take care of, but that was for other people. There was no one to take care of him. Even after he married Loaghaire, she wouldn't let him touch her, so he finally left, even though he supported her and her daughters financially. Jamie needed someone to love him as a person, not just what he could do. Claire was the love of his life and there was never anyone who could fill that space in his life after she left. |
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« Reply #43 on: May 24, 2009, 01:43:18 AM » |
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I see your point. Yes, Jamie had things to do and people to take care of, but that was for other people. There was no one to take care of him. Even after he married Loaghaire, she wouldn't let him touch her, so he finally left, even though he supported her and her daughters financially. Jamie needed someone to love him as a person, not just what he could do. Claire was the love of his life and there was never anyone who could fill that space in his life after she left.
You're right, both Jamie and Claire had big holes in them; at least Claire had Bree. |
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« Reply #44 on: May 24, 2009, 11:21:47 PM » |
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Makes me even more sad for Jamie. Claire had Bree. Jamie had nobody, even his extended family of prisoners, etc. He always had to hide part of himself from others. He even told Claire that he was all these different names to all these different people. Claire was the only person that he could be himself with, who truely understood & loved him. Claire was his soulmate.
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« Reply #45 on: May 25, 2009, 11:30:25 AM » |
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I hope y'all don't mind, but I doubt if I'm going to get the questions/answers posted today. Some time tomorrow, as early as possible. I promise.
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« Reply #46 on: May 25, 2009, 05:52:59 PM » |
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Since all I am doing is lurking and reading everyone else's answers it's fine with me  I am just trying to NOT start on Drums! |
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« Reply #47 on: May 25, 2009, 07:21:52 PM » |
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Since all I am doing is lurking and reading everyone else's answers it's fine with me I am just trying to NOT start on Drums! Hang in there, Dona. Only two more weeks until we start DoA. |
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« Reply #48 on: May 25, 2009, 08:07:42 PM » |
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It's all right, Gertie. I'm glad to see your post here, as I would have wondered where you were & if you were all right.
A lot happened in this weeks reading as well. Whewww! I just finished catching up today. Now on to this weeks reading.
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