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Ok late last night I was on amazon forum looking around, as I do from time to time. I read one post and the OP said he knew someone in amazon relatively high up in the kindle department that said the K2 is getting a Folders upgrade on the eve of the DX release. They will be called "groupings" not folders but the idea is the same. Now I'm sure I am contributing to spreading rumors if this turns out false but I thought I'd share anyways because wishful thinking and all that! I will try to find the link to the original post and edit it here. ETA: here is the original post-- this guy got shot down pretty quick on his rumor but I'm still hoping maybe this one turns out true!! http://www.amazon.com/tag/kindle/forum/ref=cm_cd_ef_tft_tp?%5Fencoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1D7SY3BVSESG&cdThread=TxZ8V3AVXXYAHP&displayType=tagsDetail |
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« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2009, 01:26:36 PM » |
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Okay--I just fell over in shock and delight
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« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2009, 01:26:54 PM » |
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Would suck if K1 users are left out in the cold when there's no reason we should be.
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« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2009, 01:30:11 PM » |
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Would suck if K1 users are left out in the cold when there's no reason we should be.
I agree completely it would be unfair to any K1 users. But I could see amazon only giving the "groupings" updates to K2 users in hopes that would be enough incentive to get K1 users to upgrade to a K2 or a DX. Still unfair but if they did only give it to k2 users I think that would be there angle. |
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« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2009, 01:31:43 PM » |
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Unfortunately the original poster is known over there as a frequent rumor spreader, and not someone who has reliability cred to his name. So...
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« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2009, 02:24:39 PM » |
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After reading the thread I realized why I don't go there anymore.
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« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2009, 02:30:05 PM » |
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Unfortunately the original poster is known over there as a frequent rumor spreader, and not someone who has reliability cred to his name. So...
^ this |
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« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2009, 03:02:55 PM » |
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It's a shame if it's just a baseless rumor, as adding folders would be a really great addition. I hope we do see them in some form eventually.
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« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2009, 03:29:53 PM » |
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Unfortunately the original poster is known over there as a frequent rumor spreader, and not someone who has reliability cred to his name. So...
The same poster also tried last night to convince someone that using a skin would violate Amazon's warranty.  |
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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2009, 03:49:18 PM » |
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Man, those people are mean over there!
I know none of you will flame me for asking this because you are all so nice, but I've never understood the need for folders. Could someone explain to me how we would use them?
I never keep all my books on the Kindle and with the K2 having the archive feature, all my Amazon books are a click away if I want to move them over to the Kindle memory. Books from other sources are stored on my computer and I transfer them over via USB a few at a time when I need them. I never have more than 3 pages in my Home pages.
I also have my Amazon books backed up on my computer by author's last name. I rename all the .azw files according to this model: Last name, First name_Title.azw. Everything is perfectly organized and at my fingertips.
I'm not saying Amazon shouldn't provide folders. I just need an explanation of how they would benefit us. Do those of you who want folders keep all the ebooks you own on the Kindle at all times?
Just askin'...
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« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2009, 03:53:06 PM » |
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I know none of you will flame me for asking this because you are all so nice, but I've never understood the need for folders. Could someone explain to me how we would use them?
If you have a lot of books, it would be nice to sort them into different categories.... Read/Unread... Samples... Sci-Fi... Historical Fiction... etc. However, I don't like to keep a lot of books on my Kindle, so I am not missing them either. |
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« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2009, 04:06:24 PM » |
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I keep a LOT of books on my Kindle 1, love having a library with me, and I don't miss folders much either.  I generally have them sorted by "most recent", but if I'm looking for a book, I'll sort by title or author. Betsy |
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« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2009, 04:32:15 PM » |
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I'm not saying Amazon shouldn't provide folders. I just need an explanation of how they would benefit us. Do those of you who want folders keep all the ebooks you own on the Kindle at all times?
Just askin'...
In your case, they probably wouldn't be of benefit at all.  For me, yes, I keep ALL my books on the Kindle at all times. Why? First off--why give me nearly 2 gigs of storage & then expect me not to use it? Secondly, I'm a voracious re-reader. When I'm looking for something to read, I'll usually look at the current inventory first. When that inventory is on Amazon's servers, I'm subject to the whims of whether or not the wireless service is working where I am. If I'm at home, it's a non issue, but when I was at my in laws last month, we had NO service in the house, and there was a literal blizzard outside. I've also been in public places where the connection was sketchy at best. I don't want to have to carry a laptop with me to add books to the K2 from my own backup files. And the biggest reason of all is that this is WHY I bought a Kindle in the first place--to have my library at my fingertips & with me at all times in a lightweight, portable package. For me, folders are a no brainer, because even at 100+ books, it's already a pain to find what I'm looking for. It will only get worse from here. |
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« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2009, 06:08:10 PM » |
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I can definitely see why those who keep a majority of their books on their Kindle would want folders.
For me personally I delete them from my Kindle when I am done reading them.I do however always have about 8 books or so on them so that if I found myself somewhere out of Whispernet range for any period of time I would still have plenty of reading material.
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« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2009, 08:13:01 PM » |
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A bit further down the original poster says that the 'groupings' would also be for the K1 as well. All this of course is taken with a grain of salt. One question for me and others who haven't owned their Kindles for that long: has Amazon ever released a new feature this big within a firmware update? Or generally do the features for the respective Kindles remain unchanged through their product cycles?
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« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2009, 08:25:16 PM » |
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I noticed how alot of people said this guy is usually spreading false rumors.
But maybe this is the time he could be telling the truth-- Maybe?? *crosses fingers* lol
I figured it was probably just wishful thinking but ya never know
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« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2009, 04:53:24 AM » |
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I keep a lot of books on my Kindle just in case I change my mind about what I want to read. Currently I have 20+ pages. I think my wants for a tagging system are to supplement the still-buggy metadata. Author names are still not consistent so sorting that way is sometimes frustrating for me. And my memory is getting worse - I find it next to impossible to remember the order of a series of books if it's not included in the title. If I could easily tag the books, it would make keeping a long list much easier.
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« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2009, 04:57:16 AM » |
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I noticed how alot of people said this guy is usually spreading false rumors.
But maybe this is the time he could be telling the truth-- Maybe?? *crosses fingers* lol
I figured it was probably just wishful thinking but ya never know
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« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2009, 05:00:44 AM » |
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In your case, they probably wouldn't be of benefit at all. For me, yes, I keep ALL my books on the Kindle at all times. Why? First off--why give me nearly 2 gigs of storage & then expect me not to use it? Secondly, I'm a voracious re-reader. When I'm looking for something to read, I'll usually look at the current inventory first. When that inventory is on Amazon's servers, I'm subject to the whims of whether or not the wireless service is working where I am. If I'm at home, it's a non issue, but when I was at my in laws last month, we had NO service in the house, and there was a literal blizzard outside. I've also been in public places where the connection was sketchy at best. I don't want to have to carry a laptop with me to add books to the K2 from my own backup files. And the biggest reason of all is that this is WHY I bought a Kindle in the first place--to have my library at my fingertips & with me at all times in a lightweight, portable package. For me, folders are a no brainer, because even at 100+ books, it's already a pain to find what I'm looking for. It will only get worse from here. You're right, VictoriaP. To be stuck somewhere without a book would be a nightmare for me too. That hasn't happened to me yet but, now that you mention it, I can see situations where that could happen. For instance, on a cruise (next year), I would want to load up my books before I left and a system to organize them would be nice. |
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« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2009, 05:01:54 AM » |
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A bit further down the original poster says that the 'groupings' would also be for the K1 as well. All this of course is taken with a grain of salt. One question for me and others who haven't owned their Kindles for that long: has Amazon ever released a new feature this big within a firmware update? Or generally do the features for the respective Kindles remain unchanged through their product cycles?
When the K2 came out, there was an update to the K1. It added image zooming and a few other minor features, so there is a slight possibility that they might update a K1 feature or two in the future. |
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« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2009, 06:07:19 AM » |
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When the K2 came out, there was an update to the K1. It added image zooming and a few other minor features, so there is a slight possibility that they might update a K1 feature or two in the future.
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« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2009, 08:44:20 AM » |
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The K1 has imagine zooming? How does that work? I have a K1 and have never used image zooming... Scroll to an image within the page, click the scroll wheel - it blows the picture up, without the 5-way controller K2 has there isn't a way to navigate within sections of a picture, but it is kind of a neat feature. |
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« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2009, 09:25:28 AM » |
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... but I've never understood the need for folders. Could someone explain to me how we would use them?
There are a couple of different ways I tend to think about the folders issue: - Can you imagine trying to work on a PC without having folder support? It can be done-- give us long enough file names & everyone could cobble something together. Long, long ago in early DOS days they didn't have folders. It didn't take them long to figure out that they needed to add it & if they hadn't DOS/Windows would have not survived to this day. - "A cluttered desk is a cluttered mind"-- My physical desk tops are way more cluttered than most, but still I have my limits. After my desk gets too cluttered I have to reorganize it or else I can't even think straight (with me I think it's one of those right-brained, left-brained things). On the Kindle I start to feel that way after a couple of screens worth of listings (and I do like to keep all of my books on the kindle). - I don't know about others, but I make heavy use of folders in my email program (thunderbird). I'm a pack rat-- there's no telling when something will come in handy later. I have folders with topical names, genre names, sender names, year names, etc. Over the years I've saved thousands of emails & every now and then I need to find one. My goal is to someday have thousands of books saved in my ebook reader as well! ;-) |
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« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2009, 09:41:24 AM » |
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« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2009, 09:41:44 AM » |
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I have quite a few books on my kindle that comprise a sort of mobile reference library.Even though i might delete books that I have read from my kindle I have many I consult as need arises. I would love to be able to sort by topic area, some books in different categories have simular titles .
I cannot always remember offhand what category a book falls into
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